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Friday, 22. November 2002
Fri, 22.11.2002, 14:27No more VS show? FCC's Copps Seeks Indecency Standard Overhaul WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A top communications official on Thursday called for an overhaul of the government's broadcast indecency standard as hundreds of complaints flooded his office about the Victoria's Secret lingerie fashion show that aired on prime-time television Wednesday night. Michael Copps, one of five commissioners at the Federal Communications Commission, urged the agency to revise the definition of indecency and also look into whether it should be expanded to include obscene, violent and profane programming. "The current definition of indecency to me should be capturing for enforcement purposes some of these programs and it is not," Copps told reporters during a briefing. "We are only having a paucity of enforcement actions against programming that is palpably and demonstrably indecent." Copps said he did not watch the fashion show, which featured models strutting up and down a catwalk in high heels and lingerie as well as musical performances by Destiny's Child, Marc Anthony and Phil Collins. Hosted by German supermodel Heidi Klum and singer Mark McGrath of Sugar Ray, the program was telecast on Viacom Inc.'s CBS television network. Federal indecency rules bar the broadcast of obscene material and limit the airing of indecent material that contains sexual or excretory references in a patently offensive manner. "I am strongly of the opinion we ought to be considering excessive violence as part of that definition," he said. A revision is "sensitive, it's delicate, it's difficult to do that, but I think we need to do that." Copps made the comments to reporters in his office. Behind him on his computer there were more than 300 e-mails from the public complaining about the lingerie fashion show. Some of the e-mails had subject lines that said: "When will this trash stop?" and "Victoria's Secret smut show." Despite the controversy, the show proved a relative ratings dud, averaging about 10.5 million viewers to finish the 9 o'clock hour in third place behind its ABC and NBC rivals. The CBS special was trounced by ABC's two-hour season finale of romance reality hit "The Bachelor," which averaged 24.1 million viewers during the 9 p.m. hour, and it trailed the 15 million tallied by NBC's political drama "The West Wing." Victoria's Secret, a unit of Limited Brands Inc., spent $7 million to produce the highly-watched show. Last year, Walt Disney Co.'s ABC television network aired the fashion show and had about 12.4 million viewers. The FCC received scores of complaints, but said they did not demonstrate the sexual aspects of the material was "so graphic or explicit as to be patently offensive." A spokeswoman for CBS was not immediately available for comment. Copps on Thursday also wondered if there was a link between the rise in what he described as more indecency in broadcasts and the consolidation in the media industry, or whether it was merely a "simple coincidence." Separately, the commissioner, the lone Democrat on the commission, said he would go ahead with plans to hold public hearings on the agency's review of ownership limits in the media, even though the idea has not won support from FCC Chairman Michael Powell. The FCC is reviewing limits on how much of the national television audience one entity should be allowed to reach; limits on local radio station concentration; and a ban on some common ownership of television and radio stations, or a television station and newspaper. The agency hopes to have a proposal for the commissioners to review by the spring of 2003. "I do not see how hearings would delay the process and it would make the process a lot more comfortable," Copps said who has said the agency seem. He said he hoped other commissioners would join the hearings and added that the gatherings would likely begin in early 2003. ---> See the uncensored show on FTV ... Comment
abfabi, Fri, 19:11
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Well, if they take into consideration the ratings... I guess there will be no more VS shows on TV. Models were not selling magazines, now, they can barelly attract audience for a lingerie show????? Not even the PETA event helped. well, I guess the supermodels era is indeed over. For good. Too bad for fashion.
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timepiece, Fri, 22:17
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Forensic crime dramas are the most graphically disturbing programs on American television today, yet they are among the most successful.
Our more sensitive viewers can see every grisly aspect of decomposition, but a beautiful young woman in showgirl gear has got the wannabe censors in our government with their panties in a bunch. ... Link
abfabi, Sat, 12:56
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Actually I do not see what is wrong with both types of shows. They are ok for me. I just do not get why FCC is complainning about since it is obvious the ratings showed that the audience do not embrace that kind of lingerie show. Why bother then?
Here is a link talking about it from a SF paper. The author just said what most people actually think about all that. It is quite funny, but serious though. Here: sfgate.com ... link
timepiece, Sat, 18:40
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On CSPAN today, they interviewed a Euro-American Muslim and he said the new Homeland Security provisions effectively suspended our (Americans) right to privacy and our right to free speech. When the FCC (USA) finds merit in possibly censoring a show that amounts to a lengthy underwear ad, you know that your right to enter the public discourse is in peril as well. There seems to be no aspect of our lives that doesn't require governmental monitoring. I understand there is no public place in London where a camera is not recording your every move. Is it like that in Paris? Thanks for the link, I enjoyed the commentary. ... link ... Comment
thejoe, Sat, 16:14
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Reflections on the Victoria's Secret show, four days later:
1) Dewi looked hot as hell; no worries about her career, despite her flashing her breasts in that recent magazine feature (and they are pretty as heck!) 2) Lindsay Frimodt became a star: one of the hottest-looking girls in the show. Look for her in the upcoming Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue for sure 3)Where do they get these loser guys to host these kinds of shows? Heidi was great, and this dork, who looked like one of Spicuzza's buddies in some stupid surfer movie, was plucked from oblivion to be her co-host. Is hosting a show like this considered career suicide, hence the rejects who make the cut? 4) Michelle Behenna's voice was wonderful taking us to commercials, but not much of what is purported to be her "wild child" came through ... Link ... Comment
monsterdonkey, Mon, 06:03
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I can't believe the folks who complain about this. There was way less (read:none) nudity than in your weekly fashion update shows, and the only parts that might have given me nightmares I was able to fast forward through. Where the hell'd they dig up Phil Collins?
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